1st Night of Class
Overview of the course, background of Dr. Fred
Hartmeister
EDLD
5340
Dr Fred Hartmeister
This is Fred's favorite class to teach, the class he has taught the most
been here since Aug 1993
Tonight we will go through the course outline
- this is just
Fred went to Valparaiso University in Indiana and majored in Elementary Education (no foreign language requirement!)
- taught school in Douglas County (Castle Rock
- taught 5th grade, had 33 or 34 students for all 3 years
- no 22 cap enrollments!
- taught there for 3 years
http://www.valpo.edu/
started teaching at age 21
did recruited to work for a business in Denver for awhile after that
- was encouraged to take business courses, started an MBA at Denver University
got certified as type D administrator in Colorado
- got interview in Steamboat Springs
- at age 27 he was a new principal
- only about 400 or 500 people in Yampa, Colorado
- from 1980-84 was an elementary principal
- enrollment flucuated, 270 - 230 students
-- full day kindergarten
-- class sizes around 14 (average)
After being a principal, decided he wanted a doctorate
- moved to Laramie, Wyoming
Through 2nd week in teaching (1973) through finishing his doctorate in 1986, Fred had a very strong interest in educational law
- 2nd week in Colorado, the other male teacher in the elementary school, gave a practioner view of keeping yourself out of trouble
- there are risks for all of us who engage in supervising young people
- in about 20 minutes, the other teacher filled Fred in on the common sense kinds of things
-- be open and forthright
-- don't create the perception that you are hiding: have several students do after school
liabilties for teachers were different in Sept of 1973 in Colorado, and now in Texas in 2005
- story of fighting 4th graders
major federal changes
- NCLB legislation
- IDEA renewal
are state level legislative changes, as well as local legal changes
- can change administratively with USDE, TEA, other state education agencies
- staying current with all changes is a challenge
This class will not give you a end-all perspecive on school law
Need to ingrain in you the need to stay current, go to workshops, read about legal things, watch for legislative changes, court decisions that can alter the landscape, etc
- legislation passed in Texas in May may invalidate some of the things we learn in this class when we conclude in April
Example is the Texas court that ruled current Texas school finance methods are unconstitutional
administrators currently have statutory immunity
- the legislature could change that if they want to (every 2 years
when Fred finished his doctorate he was asked what he wants to do, he said be Lawrence Weir (who taught school law at the Univ of Wyoming)
- Fred was encouraged at that point to go to law school
Fred met his wife to be his first year of law school, when she was in her 3rd year of law school
- Fred is an attorney only in Colorado and Wyoming, his wife is an attorney here in Texas and in Wyoming
- when we talk about things, Fred is not our attorney, we do not have an attorney-client relationship, we are talkign about legal things in an academic context
- Fred runs the risk that someone can claim malpractice if they act on something he says
will be obligatory upon us to stay current with legal issues
- will probably be more challenging to remain current in this field than any other
Fred not taking attendance this semester because of having 38 students
Was recruited to be a staff attorney/clerk for the Wyoming state supreme court
- writing judicial opinions for the chief justice of the Wyoming supreme court
- only 1 of the 40 or 50 cases he worked on during that time were about educational law
in this class we will be reading portions of quite a few judicial opinions
- some of those will have been drafted like those Fred did as a new law clerk
- had a 2 year appointment for that
then was recrited to work for district judges in Wyoming
- about 9 months into that he got a call from TTU EDLD program
- now have been here at TTU for 12 years
Fred gets currently between 30-60 emails per day
There will be 3 instructional units
1- intro to educational law: will go through the 3rd meeting
2-
3- Students and Special Education
4- school district employees rights and responsiblites
5- religion
Fred has a joint appointment with the TTU law school, but hasn't taught there for 4 years
Because our paperback book is 5 years old, some of those things are not valid anymore
- anytime you publish something about the law, it is out of date almost the moment it comes off the printing press
2 cases before supreme course
1- ten commandments
2- coach of girls HS basketball team in Alabama, coach complained about inequities about support for the girls BB team, and he lost his coaching job (this is a title 9 case)
Fred's evaluation of our performance:
- we need to go interview 2 Texas principals
- try to find at least 1 person with a large amount of experience
- we will submit electronically summaries of our interviews
- Jan 28 is the deadline
won't assign groups until drop/add period is over
- before end of jan, we will be assigned groups to work with for projects
- we will have a memo to respond to, and in 1 of last 3 class sessions we will present
these are not as simple as they appear, there is more complexity to it
2 exams: midterm exam on Thurs, march 6th
- Final is open note but not a group project
not deducting points for attendance
- used to say you could miss one class, and then lose 3 points per class session
students here have earned C's, and some have withdrawn
Fred feels very highly motivated to help us make the next 15 weeks meaningful and worthwhile
$250 was 3 hour grad class when Fred came to TTU in '93
Alexander and Alexander text assignment for next week:
- read chapters 1 and 2 for next week
- preface and look at appendices
- in Kemmer and Walsh: read chapter 1 and be familiar with appendices
when we come back, we will do introductions
In February Fred will teach twice from the HC, once from Marble Falls and once from FB
Drew Coleman is instructional specialist at Wheatley and Tubbs (classmate in Lubbock)
Melissa True is 5th grade teacher at Rush Elementary
Group projects will be district policy oriented
Dr Fred Hartmeister
This is Fred's favorite class to teach, the class he has taught the most
been here since Aug 1993
Tonight we will go through the course outline
- this is just
Fred went to Valparaiso University in Indiana and majored in Elementary Education (no foreign language requirement!)
- taught school in Douglas County (Castle Rock
- taught 5th grade, had 33 or 34 students for all 3 years
- no 22 cap enrollments!
- taught there for 3 years
http://www.valpo.edu/
started teaching at age 21
did recruited to work for a business in Denver for awhile after that
- was encouraged to take business courses, started an MBA at Denver University
got certified as type D administrator in Colorado
- got interview in Steamboat Springs
- at age 27 he was a new principal
- only about 400 or 500 people in Yampa, Colorado
- from 1980-84 was an elementary principal
- enrollment flucuated, 270 - 230 students
-- full day kindergarten
-- class sizes around 14 (average)
After being a principal, decided he wanted a doctorate
- moved to Laramie, Wyoming
Through 2nd week in teaching (1973) through finishing his doctorate in 1986, Fred had a very strong interest in educational law
- 2nd week in Colorado, the other male teacher in the elementary school, gave a practioner view of keeping yourself out of trouble
- there are risks for all of us who engage in supervising young people
- in about 20 minutes, the other teacher filled Fred in on the common sense kinds of things
-- be open and forthright
-- don't create the perception that you are hiding: have several students do after school
liabilties for teachers were different in Sept of 1973 in Colorado, and now in Texas in 2005
- story of fighting 4th graders
major federal changes
- NCLB legislation
- IDEA renewal
are state level legislative changes, as well as local legal changes
- can change administratively with USDE, TEA, other state education agencies
- staying current with all changes is a challenge
This class will not give you a end-all perspecive on school law
Need to ingrain in you the need to stay current, go to workshops, read about legal things, watch for legislative changes, court decisions that can alter the landscape, etc
- legislation passed in Texas in May may invalidate some of the things we learn in this class when we conclude in April
Example is the Texas court that ruled current Texas school finance methods are unconstitutional
administrators currently have statutory immunity
- the legislature could change that if they want to (every 2 years
when Fred finished his doctorate he was asked what he wants to do, he said be Lawrence Weir (who taught school law at the Univ of Wyoming)
- Fred was encouraged at that point to go to law school
Fred met his wife to be his first year of law school, when she was in her 3rd year of law school
- Fred is an attorney only in Colorado and Wyoming, his wife is an attorney here in Texas and in Wyoming
- when we talk about things, Fred is not our attorney, we do not have an attorney-client relationship, we are talkign about legal things in an academic context
- Fred runs the risk that someone can claim malpractice if they act on something he says
will be obligatory upon us to stay current with legal issues
- will probably be more challenging to remain current in this field than any other
Fred not taking attendance this semester because of having 38 students
Was recruited to be a staff attorney/clerk for the Wyoming state supreme court
- writing judicial opinions for the chief justice of the Wyoming supreme court
- only 1 of the 40 or 50 cases he worked on during that time were about educational law
in this class we will be reading portions of quite a few judicial opinions
- some of those will have been drafted like those Fred did as a new law clerk
- had a 2 year appointment for that
then was recrited to work for district judges in Wyoming
- about 9 months into that he got a call from TTU EDLD program
- now have been here at TTU for 12 years
Fred gets currently between 30-60 emails per day
There will be 3 instructional units
1- intro to educational law: will go through the 3rd meeting
2-
3- Students and Special Education
4- school district employees rights and responsiblites
5- religion
Fred has a joint appointment with the TTU law school, but hasn't taught there for 4 years
Because our paperback book is 5 years old, some of those things are not valid anymore
- anytime you publish something about the law, it is out of date almost the moment it comes off the printing press
2 cases before supreme course
1- ten commandments
2- coach of girls HS basketball team in Alabama, coach complained about inequities about support for the girls BB team, and he lost his coaching job (this is a title 9 case)
Fred's evaluation of our performance:
- we need to go interview 2 Texas principals
- try to find at least 1 person with a large amount of experience
- we will submit electronically summaries of our interviews
- Jan 28 is the deadline
won't assign groups until drop/add period is over
- before end of jan, we will be assigned groups to work with for projects
- we will have a memo to respond to, and in 1 of last 3 class sessions we will present
these are not as simple as they appear, there is more complexity to it
2 exams: midterm exam on Thurs, march 6th
- Final is open note but not a group project
not deducting points for attendance
- used to say you could miss one class, and then lose 3 points per class session
students here have earned C's, and some have withdrawn
Fred feels very highly motivated to help us make the next 15 weeks meaningful and worthwhile
$250 was 3 hour grad class when Fred came to TTU in '93
Alexander and Alexander text assignment for next week:
- read chapters 1 and 2 for next week
- preface and look at appendices
- in Kemmer and Walsh: read chapter 1 and be familiar with appendices
when we come back, we will do introductions
In February Fred will teach twice from the HC, once from Marble Falls and once from FB
Drew Coleman is instructional specialist at Wheatley and Tubbs (classmate in Lubbock)
Melissa True is 5th grade teacher at Rush Elementary
Group projects will be district policy oriented
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