Notes 3 Oct 2004
Overview of Freireian dialog, Letters to
Christina 5 and 8
EDCI 6306
Friere
4 Oct 2004
The six or so essential pages of chapter 3: Pedagogy of the Oppressed
The essence of idalogue
- the word
- has 2 dimensions: reflection and action
- reflection & action = praxis
- false dialogue leads to either verbalism or activism
- true dialogue leads to changing the world
the two must go together for an authentic dialog
when we speak words in dialog: we want to change understandings / meanings
when we have a dialog we need to rename
- when we rename and redefine we are changing the world
Freire is pushing hard for the humanization of individuals and for justice across the board
essence of dialog is speaking, using words in such a way that they manifest reflection but also change our understandings / ideas
Freire uses the world "the great unwashed" to refer to the world's poor population
one of the main things he wants to change is a fatalistic approach to living
The naming of the world
- words convey meanings that are true or false
- naming the world attempts to define what exists and is valued
- naming has been reserved for the privileged
- naming needs to become a public, open and social matter
- is referring to the predominantly accepted meaning
naming not only reflects what we perceive as true, but also what we perceive (or the authors who name) perceive as valued
terminology 3rd world country is a derogatory term for many who live in non-industrialized countries
we always run into trouble when we try to call everyone in a particular group a specific name (assume monolithic treatment is desirable / politically correct)
perhaps there is no virtue in being overly sensitive to labeling
- however if you are dialoging in love, you are probably not sitting on the edge of your seat waiting to jump all over someone who is using the wrong term / label
while we should not be prone to anger, we should leave room for people to express their feelings in anger in particular situations
- hopefully it is directed at the terminiology and not at people as individuals
growing up Doug found the main conditions in which he could speak out when he was angry or joking
Freire is arguing that we should give people the right to name themselves
- in genuine dialog, we don't name ourselves by ourselves
in special education you see people use descriptive phrases for behavior rather than labels to strive for this ideal
Dialog is:
- a social encounter that is mediated by the world in an effort to name the world
- a social experience where those involved are recognized as equals
- a time when no one speaks for another
- an occasion of united reflection and action
politics is almost by its nature anti-dialogical
Dialog is (con't):
- an interaction of people, not a time to merely deposit information or engage in polemics (telling people what they need to do, preaching to them, a one-way street of interaction)
- an act of creation by renaming the world
- a time to raise questions, reveal abuses
- a time to liberate humankind by dominating the world through critical analysis and unveiling the oppression in thought or naming
- an unveiling, unearthing, de-robing of practices / policies / laws
- he sees himself as engaging in an archeology of language
The preconditions of dialoguue
- a profound love
- an uncommon humility
- an intense faith
- a mutual trust
- an undying hope
- a bent toward critical thinking
A Profound Love
- love is needed for
-- genuine dialog
-- the world
-- people
-- life
- Love is a committment to others
- Love includes a commmitment to the cause of liberation of the oppressed
Love is an act of courage, an act for freedom, and generates other acts of freedom
An uncommon humility
- naming of the world cannot be an act of arrogance
- task of learning and acting is a common undertaking
- everyone is an I, no one is an it
- being open to the contributions of others
- fear of displacement must be overcome
- self-sufficiency is inconsistent with humaility and dialog
- everyone has something important to say
- no one is a perfect sage (or an utter ignoramus)
An intense faith
- in humankind's ability to create and recreate
- a faith in the potential to become more fully human
- a sophisticated faith that understands some people may not use their creative powers to help build a new world
- a faith that believes the power to create can be reborn in the struggle for liberation
A mutual trust
- faith is a precondition for dialogue
- mutual trust emerges in a dialogue and is a condition for further dialgue
- trust is contingent on evidence
- trust does not grow if words and deeds diverge
- stated intentions must be accompanied by public evidence
An undying hope
- hope is rooted in a search for completelness in communion with others
- hope moves us to pursue and create a more just and humane world
- hopelessness undermines dialgue and mutual learning
- hope leads to fighting for justice
a bent toward critical thinking
- CT sees solidarity between the world and people
- sees reality as a process
- sees itself as tied to action
- sees the temporal post continuing in the present unlike naive thinking
- sees the practiced and the content of education as a contributor to and a form of liberation
some of the participants
- oppressed
- dialogical
- capitalists
- ignoramousus
- oppressors
- anti-dialogical
- revolutionaries
- urban masses
- dominant elites
- sages
- peasants
- banking educators
- naive thinkers
- the humanist educators
- the great unwashed
- the owners of truth
Anyone has the right to question anyone else!
Big difference between failing at something and being a failure
Winners never quit and quitters never win
Readings for next week:
- Politics: 54-59
- Oppressed: 35-69
- Cultural Workers: 4th letters
- Christina: 6th and 16th letter
My handout on Letter 8:
handout.pdf
4 Oct 2004
The six or so essential pages of chapter 3: Pedagogy of the Oppressed
The essence of idalogue
- the word
- has 2 dimensions: reflection and action
- reflection & action = praxis
- false dialogue leads to either verbalism or activism
- true dialogue leads to changing the world
the two must go together for an authentic dialog
when we speak words in dialog: we want to change understandings / meanings
when we have a dialog we need to rename
- when we rename and redefine we are changing the world
Freire is pushing hard for the humanization of individuals and for justice across the board
essence of dialog is speaking, using words in such a way that they manifest reflection but also change our understandings / ideas
Freire uses the world "the great unwashed" to refer to the world's poor population
one of the main things he wants to change is a fatalistic approach to living
The naming of the world
- words convey meanings that are true or false
- naming the world attempts to define what exists and is valued
- naming has been reserved for the privileged
- naming needs to become a public, open and social matter
- is referring to the predominantly accepted meaning
naming not only reflects what we perceive as true, but also what we perceive (or the authors who name) perceive as valued
terminology 3rd world country is a derogatory term for many who live in non-industrialized countries
we always run into trouble when we try to call everyone in a particular group a specific name (assume monolithic treatment is desirable / politically correct)
perhaps there is no virtue in being overly sensitive to labeling
- however if you are dialoging in love, you are probably not sitting on the edge of your seat waiting to jump all over someone who is using the wrong term / label
while we should not be prone to anger, we should leave room for people to express their feelings in anger in particular situations
- hopefully it is directed at the terminiology and not at people as individuals
growing up Doug found the main conditions in which he could speak out when he was angry or joking
Freire is arguing that we should give people the right to name themselves
- in genuine dialog, we don't name ourselves by ourselves
in special education you see people use descriptive phrases for behavior rather than labels to strive for this ideal
Dialog is:
- a social encounter that is mediated by the world in an effort to name the world
- a social experience where those involved are recognized as equals
- a time when no one speaks for another
- an occasion of united reflection and action
politics is almost by its nature anti-dialogical
Dialog is (con't):
- an interaction of people, not a time to merely deposit information or engage in polemics (telling people what they need to do, preaching to them, a one-way street of interaction)
- an act of creation by renaming the world
- a time to raise questions, reveal abuses
- a time to liberate humankind by dominating the world through critical analysis and unveiling the oppression in thought or naming
- an unveiling, unearthing, de-robing of practices / policies / laws
- he sees himself as engaging in an archeology of language
The preconditions of dialoguue
- a profound love
- an uncommon humility
- an intense faith
- a mutual trust
- an undying hope
- a bent toward critical thinking
A Profound Love
- love is needed for
-- genuine dialog
-- the world
-- people
-- life
- Love is a committment to others
- Love includes a commmitment to the cause of liberation of the oppressed
Love is an act of courage, an act for freedom, and generates other acts of freedom
An uncommon humility
- naming of the world cannot be an act of arrogance
- task of learning and acting is a common undertaking
- everyone is an I, no one is an it
- being open to the contributions of others
- fear of displacement must be overcome
- self-sufficiency is inconsistent with humaility and dialog
- everyone has something important to say
- no one is a perfect sage (or an utter ignoramus)
An intense faith
- in humankind's ability to create and recreate
- a faith in the potential to become more fully human
- a sophisticated faith that understands some people may not use their creative powers to help build a new world
- a faith that believes the power to create can be reborn in the struggle for liberation
A mutual trust
- faith is a precondition for dialogue
- mutual trust emerges in a dialogue and is a condition for further dialgue
- trust is contingent on evidence
- trust does not grow if words and deeds diverge
- stated intentions must be accompanied by public evidence
An undying hope
- hope is rooted in a search for completelness in communion with others
- hope moves us to pursue and create a more just and humane world
- hopelessness undermines dialgue and mutual learning
- hope leads to fighting for justice
a bent toward critical thinking
- CT sees solidarity between the world and people
- sees reality as a process
- sees itself as tied to action
- sees the temporal post continuing in the present unlike naive thinking
- sees the practiced and the content of education as a contributor to and a form of liberation
some of the participants
- oppressed
- dialogical
- capitalists
- ignoramousus
- oppressors
- anti-dialogical
- revolutionaries
- urban masses
- dominant elites
- sages
- peasants
- banking educators
- naive thinkers
- the humanist educators
- the great unwashed
- the owners of truth
Anyone has the right to question anyone else!
Big difference between failing at something and being a failure
Winners never quit and quitters never win
Readings for next week:
- Politics: 54-59
- Oppressed: 35-69
- Cultural Workers: 4th letters
- Christina: 6th and 16th letter
My handout on Letter 8:
handout.pdfPosted: Mon - October 4, 2004 at 08:50 PM
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